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Old 05-19-2002, 12:52 PM
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truck of the month?

i am from fordtruckworld.com and think you have a good site. i voted for bombers truck cause that is the one i liked. i am not being biased at all. a good truck is a good truck. not to affend anybody but a ranger is not a truck in my mind. it needs tioo many mods to be able to compete with the big boys in mudding and wheeling. i have seen one ranger i liked so far and he is on FTW and is a serious mudder. maybe i don't count but that is just my .02



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Thnaks for your opinion. I happen to own that yellow ranger. I decided to drop it for exactly what you said! Keep on posting and have fun with the site!
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Old 05-19-2002, 07:50 PM
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I disagree. Rangers need the same exact mods as full size trucks, bigger tires and traction. At that level they are ten times more capable than a fullsize rig due to their more compact size, shorter wheelbase, and lighter weight.
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A Ranger's not a truck?!?

Dude,
I'd have to disagree with you on that statement. I have a full sized F-150 Ranger ('79 model), and a '94 Ranger, and both of them are good trucks. The smaller Ranger is more economical as a daily driver, and is cheaper to maintain. I like the full sized F-150's also, but I like the Rangers better. I guess everyone has their own opinion. I agree that Bomber has a very nice truck, but so do the other guys. He chose to pull out of the race, and he could probably re-enter if he wanted to do so. I hope those can guys resolve any differences that have derived from this Ford of the month competition. They all seem to be good dudes, and it's a shame if any of them have hard feelings for each other. Life's too short to have ought with your brother. Welcome to FordCustoms guys, and I hope you stay will be enjoyable. Your friends at your other site are welcome also. PEACE.darby:fcrules:
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not to affend anybody but a ranger is not a truck in my mind. it needs tioo many mods to be able to compete with the big boys in mudding and wheeling.
Everyone has their opinion, and, while I disagree, I also value yours. However, in my opinion the statement of compact trucks being incompetetive in an off road environment is completely incorrect. The 86 Ranger STX I own has had its share of both victories and defeats in off roading as well as being an all around good truck. It only has a stock 2.9L V6 with a gooey-go automatic tranny and has pulled more than its fair share of weight, climbed plenty of hills, seen all four wheels in the air, and has flung great amounts of "earth snot". I have even rolled this truck and it continues to take a beating. And throughout all its wear and tear, it will still continue to start the same way as when I bought it near new, consume considerably less gas than your full size, and remain easily maintained.

Furthermore, there is more to the value of a truck than its capability to off-road. Initially, trucks were never even designed to off-road. The purpose of a truck is to allow the transportation of both people and cargo.

Not to pick on you, but as you had your opinion, my opinion stands that a statement in the manner you presented is ignorant. As I have learned throughout my years of life, there truly are different strokes for different folks and I am not the one to judge, nor anyone else.

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[ not to affend anybody but a ranger is not a truck in my mind. it needs tioo many mods to be able to compete with the big boys in mudding and wheeling. but that is just my .02



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yes you are entitled to your .02, but i beg to differ. i've got 2 75 broncos, an 84 bronco2 with a 302 in it, and an 86 ranger 4x4. all of them can go down trails made by jeep owners for jeeps only. with narrow trails and tight corners, they've set it up so f150s, rams, and silverados can't get in. on one trip i had to pull a fullsize blazer off one mogole, he was hung up on the frame. i managed to sneak through the brush to get behind him, something a bigger truck could never do.
also i've found that bigger isn't always better when it comes to mud. driving habits and the right speed will get you through, not an extra 2 cylinders. another plus for rangers is the arrival and departure angles, both are better than the f150's, as well as the turning radius. there, i've said my .02
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yes, rangers are good for tight trails and they can wheel. in my post i said mudding. you cannot get a ranger that has a 8 cyl. can you? not unless somebody swapped it in already. no way a 6 banger handles thick mud! as far as jeep trail, yup they would be great especially the bronco2. i have 2 150's ans a bronco. both the f150 and the bronco have short wheelbases and i wheel both of em. i am currently building the bronco to wheel only. tho it is a 92. wish i had a pre 77 year but....

as far as mods go, an engine is a mod that f150 do not really need to replace so... and yes we all do gears, shift kits, lockers, straight axle conversions. so it's close but i can see wheeling a ranger at all.

i think they look better slammed personally. again my .02

ignorant or not still my opinion.
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Old 05-20-2002, 06:40 PM
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the blue truck of the month which is a ranger looks cool, tho. i will give that up and rangers are great for baja racing too.
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Bronco/F150: 5.0L Powered: 205 Horsepower@4000rpm / 270 ft lbs Torque@3000rpm

Ranger -- 4.0 SOHC: 205 Horsepower@5,250 rpm / 235 ft lbs Torque at 3,000 rpm

Yeah, that's a whopping difference.

The ranger is lighter weight, and with comparable mods it will smoke that heavy ass truck through any 200 foot of mud you choose.

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Nice point Russ...Rangers rule
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1994 Ford Ranger 4x4.... hmmm not bad!


2000 Ford Ranger 4x2 4 banger.... hmmm...



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SORRY I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST! I THINK HE SAID RANGERS DONT DO GOOD IN MUD?? HMM...
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I actually dont think your opinion of rangers not being good in the mud is ignorant. Its biased, but not ignorant. What I found ignorant is your statement of:
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not to affend anybody but a ranger is not a truck in my mind.
And, again, Im not harping on you. I just feel that is an ignorant statement. If it was mispoke, or misunderstood, no big deal. But the true fact remains that the whole purpose of a truck is not to attempt to bury it 4 feet deep in mud.

I do enjoy this debate, however, so keep posting! A world without opinions would be a world without thought....so lets keep thinking....
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Man, you are in the wrong forum if you are going to DISS rangers!!!!!!!!!! You might want to rethink what you said! Rangers rule!!!!!
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Man, you are in the wrong forum if you are going to DISS rangers!!!!!!!!!! You might want to rethink what you said! Rangers rule!!!!!
no no reason to rethink, cause we love a debate, but i dont necessarily agree with him...and fast74ranger is correct...the whole point of building a custom truck or suv is not always to have it buried in mud or water or whatever other crap, some people do it just cause the like the looks or shows, etc... and rangers look great lifted and lowered.
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...the whole point of building a custom truck or suv is not always to have it buried in mud or water or whatever other crap, some people do it just cause the like the looks or shows, etc... and rangers look great lifted and lowered.
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Well said!

The opposite attitude is sort of what has driven me away from the ranger community. I contribute much less to the other boards anymore because of certain peoples "beat the snot out of it or you're gay attitude."

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first of all russ, you assumed i had a 5.0. well you are wrong, do i need to say what happens when you assume!!!!!! also, a ranger need to be modified more than a full size f150 to wheel heavily. i am not saying that all rangers are bad. i just belive that they should be slammed, not lifted. yes i am sure they work well on tight trails but so are early broncos.

next, functionality, tell me how much stuff can you fit in a ranger bed?

and then you have my opinion that a stock ranger cannot take the abuse that a stock full size 150 can. anything that is heavily modded can take a beaten!!!!

btw justin, nice pics.

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also, a ranger need to be modified more than a full size f150 to wheel heavily. i am not saying that all rangers are bad. i just belive that they should be slammed, not lifted. yes i am sure they work well on tight trails but so are early broncos.

next, functionality, tell me how much stuff can you fit in a ranger bed?

and then you have my opinion that a stock ranger cannot take the abuse that a stock full size 150 can. anything that is heavily modded can take a beaten!!!!
The ranger and F150s need the same level of modification. Lift, tires, and traction. There is no other difference... Your falacy about requiring more horsepower for mud is completely off base.

In fact, your entire argument is off base. According to your logic we might as all pack it in. Your F150 will never be able to haul as much as a real truck can, and it will never be able to wheel as well as a bone stock Jeep TJ.

Let's all just give up and buy Peterbuilts and TJs!
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ok, now we are bringing in jeeps, why. i thought it was ranger/ f150 debate. hmmmm.
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are you sure that a ranger stock has the same ground clearance a stock f150 does? i don't think it does.
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