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Old 03-27-2007, 04:02 PM
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Hybrids

By what year do you predict that 50% of the vehicles on the road will be hybrid cars? I bet it takes a lot longer than you might think. Maybe 2020 would be a good guess.
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:52 PM
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Who knows. if you read that evil prius article it sounds like they might be doing more harm to the enviornment than good
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:50 PM
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Re: Hybrids

If the gas prices keep going up the way they have been. Just over $1.00 a gal. in the last 9 weeks here in Calif. to $3.26.
I predict it will happen sooner then you think.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:01 PM
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:eek: man that sucks. Its about $2.50 here in the mid west.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:03 AM
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Re: Hybrids

$3.26? Are you f'n serious? Geeze..its about $2.40 here or so. Give or take 10/20 cents..lol
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:06 AM
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Re: Hybrids

YOU GOTTA MOVE
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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YOU GOTTA MOVE
I've thought about it. But my grand kids are here and that's what keeps me young.
Besides, now that I'm retired I only drive about 5-6K a year. So a tank of gas lasts me almost a month.
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:07 PM
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Well I guess its not so bad then. Enjoy that retirement and the grand kids :thumbsup:

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I only drive about 5-6K a year. So a tank of gas lasts me almost a month.
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Old 03-31-2007, 02:40 AM
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$3.26? Are you f'n serious?

Yes I was serious.

Just for the record I paid $2.25.9 at this same station on 1/16/2007
I took this photo at 3:30 P.M. today 3/30/2007.
Less than 30 minutes later the price went up another 2 cents to $3.29.9 for reg,
and 6 cents to $3.45.9 for Plus & $3.55.9 forV-Power.




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Old 04-03-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: Hybrids

Update everyone. The price went to $3.35.9 today... 04/02/07. That's $1.10 in the last 15 weeks
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:20 PM
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Dude that sucks.
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The hybrid Hondas get 48 mpg. I bought a new 1988 Chevy Sprint that achieved 48 mpg. I checked its mileage often because I was trying to adjust driving habits to see if 50 was possible. So why is it that we are faced with thousands of extra dollars for a hybrid, when the same mileage was available almost 20 years ago, in a carbureted simple engine that most people could work on?
With the gas prices at $3.00 locally, the sighting of muscle cars and hotrods streetrods are much more rare.
We live on a rural highway. Owners of 1937 Packard, 1949 F-1, 1940 Ford Tudor, 1956 F-100, 1967 Camaro, all live along the highway within two miles of here, and I havent seen ANY of them on the road this year.
Whenever a subject similar to this comes up on some of the other forums, the responses are almost uniform, "I dont care anything about mileage in my 454, just looking for more performance". The reality seems to be otherwise.
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Re: Hybrids

Interesting discussion here. Did you feel safe in that Sprtin 46yblock? Many people talk about wanting to feel safe so they need a big car.

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The hybrid Hondas get 48 mpg. I bought a new 1988 Chevy Sprint that achieved 48 mpg. I checked its mileage often because I was trying to adjust driving habits to see if 50 was possible. So why is it that we are faced with thousands of extra dollars for a hybrid, when the same mileage was available almost 20 years ago, in a carbureted simple engine that most people could work on?
With the gas prices at $3.00 locally, the sighting of muscle cars and hotrods streetrods are much more rare.
We live on a rural highway. Owners of 1937 Packard, 1949 F-1, 1940 Ford Tudor, 1956 F-100, 1967 Camaro, all live along the highway within two miles of here, and I havent seen ANY of them on the road this year.
Whenever a subject similar to this comes up on some of the other forums, the responses are almost uniform, "I dont care anything about mileage in my 454, just looking for more performance". The reality seems to be otherwise.
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Regarding safe:
You dont want to get into an accident with any car, especially a small one. So you drive very attentively. Just like the motorcycles I owned for many years.
That Sprint was something. It gradually became uglier than usual, due to a drunk uninsured driver plowing into it parked one night, and because of one of the notorious Kansas hail storms which left it looking like a madman with ball peene(?) hammer had worked it over. In that uglified condition, My 6'5" stepson drove it with me on a round trip to Oregon and back to Ks when we were first looking for a home here. Floorboarded throttle pedal on the Interstate gave up 87 mph, but you REALLY had to be paying attention.

After 115,000 carefree miles, sold it to the inlaws for $300. They bought it for a daughter's first car. She drove it into a hedgrow when the roads were icy, pushing several Osage Orange branches through the floorboard and denting up the front end some. When they sold it soon after it was still running.
My wife and her 92 year old mother were in a wreck with her Honda two years ago. A 1975 Suburban lost control, ran into them and rolled them in a 10 foot ravine (oh and the Suburban driver was uninsured). Totalled the Honda, but neither needed to go to the hospital.
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I agree with you yblock. The technology for good gas milage has been around for a long time. In the 60's I had an Alfa Romeo that got hi 20's and a Corvair that got hi teens and occasionally low 20's.
The Alfa had a 17 gallon tank that I could easily go 400 miles on. In the 70's after the first Arab oil embargo diesel was the way to go. They got better mileage and the fuel was $.25-.30 a gallon cheeper.
Dealers were charging $3,000-4,000 more for their diesel models and you couldn't give away a 5,000 lb. full size car with a 350-400 cu. in. engine . I remember one car magazine at the time,
Hot Rod or Car Craft, I think. Doing a series of articles over a period of about a year or so. They wanted to see if you could get both performance and good gas mileage.
As I recall the car they used was a late 60's 396 Chevelle. The car got something like 11-12 mpg in stock form. They did a bunch of work to the motor concentrating on low end torque,
rather than top end HP. By using RV cams and headers and things like that, they managed to get 19-20 mpg while still running 13-14 second 1/4 miles. Then people got use to paying $1.00 a gallon for gas.
Performance was again the thing most people wanted. Cars and trucks began to grow in size and weight. So we now have vehicles like the Expedition, and engines from 5.0-6.5L (300-400 cu.in.).
With gas now climbing into the $3.00 plus per gallon range, hybrids are the current, trendy darlings of the car buying public. How long will you have to drive that hybrid just to recoup
the $4,000-6,000 extra you paid for it with gas savings?. A few years from now when people get use to paying $4.00 a gallon for gas the muscle cars and hot rods will be back.
It's just human nature.

Having the ability to swerve out of harms way or stop in what I consider a reasonable distance has always been important to me. So my personal cars have always been small to medium size,
GOOD HANDLING cars. The fact that they got decent or good mileage was just a bonus. My Ranger is the largest personal vehicle I've owned in over 40 years.
The latest trendy stuff from Detroit or 0-60 times have never lore me into a showroom. I also pay attention to what I'm doing when I'm behind the wheel or on my GoldWing.
Unlike most people. If my cell phone rings while I'm driving. I either ignore it or pull on to the shoulder before responding. Likewise I don't spend a whole lot of time playing with
the radio or heater-A/C controls or try to read or comb my hair while driving. I don't have that much hair left anyway. I've never understood people who drive with small children or pets in their laps.
All those things are a recipe for disaster.
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:29 PM
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You are one of very few people who do that. I think its smart.

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I've never understood people who drive with small children or pets in their laps.
Yeah, that's one that really kinda ticks me off. You see these people with little doggies sitting there pretty much driving the car, and if they get in a head-on, wheeeee, little doggie is staright through the window, or worse, severely injured by the airbag.
As for kids, well that's just beyond stupidity IMO.
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