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Installation went perfectly no problems. These faces did not require needles to be removed, they just slide over the needles and the center piece. This went fine and they move freely. The problem happened after work tonight. It was about 50 degrees so the truck was cold. When it started I noticed the tach was jerky as engine revved. Also the speedo was sluggish. The temp gauge was slow also, and the oil pressure gauge was not moving at all. After about 10 minutes the oil pressure gauge started moving to its normal spot about midway on the gauge and the temp gauge finally reached its normal spot also midway. The tach and speedo where working smoothly. When I got home I shut off truck and restarted and all was fine. This problem seems to only happen when the truck has sat for a while and got cold. Any ideas???:werd:

One of two things...

Either it has always been like this and you just never noticed cause you had no reason too, but now that you do you think something is wrong...

OR...

did you put the new guages over the old ones? Cause it could be interfering with the movement of the guages... might want to check that.

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nope i have no idea whats wrong since u did'nt have to remove the needles. sounds funny to me and i would'nt worry about it if it only happens when cold

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It didn't happen before, I am the kind of person that would have noticed that immediatly thinking the oil pump was messed up not showing pressure. Which I know it is working because there is also an idiot light for the oil. I did place these over the old faces because the needles do not get removed. As far as rubbing, I thought of that at first but why would it go away after the truck warms up? I am going to take the dash back apart today and check the electrical connections on the back and take the gauge faces back off and see if the problem goes away. I like these gauge faces and want to figure out the problem.

id also check the hole around the needles make sure there the same size they may be expanding and contracting a little slowing the needles, but, thats about all i could come up with

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Seems to me...needle rubbing on gauge face. When things get warmed up it is ok.When
cold not(ie. rubbing). That's what I think.
When I did my gauges, couldn't get speedo right. I had to drive on freeway and use
mile markers to calibrate speedo.....not fun while driving! Not easy pulling needle off
and putting back on at 60 mph. I've since found I am within 2 mph, close enough for
me.
L8r

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I agree with the rubbing, if you take them off and the problem still exhist then you know something is wrong with the cluster. By the way they look great

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I got it fixed! The hub of the needles were rubbing! When I taped the outside edges of the gauge faces down this caused the center of the gauge face to rise just a little, then when it was cold I guess it was enough to rub the hub of the needles. When it warmed up the faced must have relaxed and the problem wasnt as noticeable. I raised the faces up and put double stick tape on the bottom of the faces around the center areas, then retaped the edges and problem appears to be gone. I will find out tonight after work. I found a double stick tape made by scotch that you can use on photographs, it allows for you to lift the face and re set it if you didnt get it straight.
Now I think I may have a constant velocity joint going out on the front of my truck. While I was driving slow with the window down and the radio off I heard a funny mid range squeaking noise from the front end area. Stepping on the brakes did not change the noise thinking a brake pad might be dragging. Guess I might put the truck up on four jack stands, put it in 4x4 and let it run that way and check for the noise. I hate to take it to the dealer unless I can give him an idea of what i'm hearing. It's a strange noise almost like dry rubber rubbing against dry rubber.

hmmm well glad to hear that the gauges worked oiut thats what i figured the poroblem was, the noise hmm did you check all your lugs makes sure there not loose and your sittin wrong or maybe check the belts......

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Red, what do you mean "your sitten wrong"? As far as the belts the noise stops just before I stop moving. It may be the front U Joints in the driveshaft?

well one time someone i think tried to steal my lugs but got caught so they left one side off a little and the tire slipped everynow and then and made a rubbing sound then a thud but if yours are just a little loose maybe just a rubbing sound it was all i could think of , since you thought a break disc loose sound

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I went out at lunch and had somebody drive my truck while I walked along side and the sound is like a whimpering sound. It sounds like a bad inside brake pad, but you would think when the brake is applied it would go away? I checked the lugs and they were tight. Oh well I will put the truck up on four jack stands tomorrow and take off the left front tire and put it in 4 wheel and let her idle. I should be able to find the problem, I hope.

hope it works out for you man, if i think of anything else it could be ill be sure to let you know

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I took my truck back to the dealer and left it for them to figure it out, its still under warranty. Told them if they could not hear the noise, call me and I would go there and take the mechanic out and show him. They gave me a rental, nice rental. It is a 2002 Dakota 4 dr, 4x4 with the V8, time to go off road!!

Got my Ranger back from the dealer. The noise was from dry inner hub bearing seals. They said the factory puts them together dry and sometimes they make that strange rubbing noise. They took the hubs apart and packed the seals with grease. Also found out that the bearings are non-serviceable bearings. So down the road if I have bearing problems I will have to buy the complete hub assy.....or maybe just go ahead and buy a new truck! Yeah, that's the ticket, a new truck!