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Old 10-16-2002, 11:29 AM
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Turbo Ranger

I have seen alot of people talking of this.. I also have seen alot of people who have done this. I have seen talks of people reaching around 500hp from their 4 cylinders.... makes me wonder how... but anyways I am wondering if anyone knows what would need to be done to a stock block to put a turbo on it or should i just go find a block out of a 86 Thunderbird... Which way would be cheaper? Also if anyone has one I would love to take it off your hands... seems like nobody around here likes those... Well hoping for help. C-ya
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Old 10-16-2002, 03:51 PM
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with my limited knowlege i can tell you that your transmission probably couldnt handle 500 HP so you'd need a new one.

if you introduce 500HP to a stock motor your piston rods will prolly snap if you engine doesnt blow first

thats what i say but i might be wrong.
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Old 10-16-2002, 04:16 PM
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I don't expect to make it anywhere near 500hp... possibly 250...
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:38 PM
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i found this out with my diesel motor if i turbo i will only be able to run about 3-5 pounds of boost or i will either shoot a piston out the bottom of the pan, melt it to the cylinder or melt the valves or blow the heads off of head gaskets(like then new durajaps) the reason why a stock motor is not capable of a turbo cause they use different materials when the make the motors
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Old 10-17-2002, 03:21 AM
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I can't remember who it was, I think it was 11secranger, or someone on this site had done this to his truck. It was either an svo mustang motor or a turbo coupe t-birds. If you found the right doner car you'd be all set. The ideal car would be a '86 svo Mustang but good luck finding one to part out.
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Old 10-17-2002, 03:59 AM
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an11secondranger and russ

BOTH have done it.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen either around here recently
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hey berad what do you mean by the word "durajaps" is the duramax really japanese?
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Old 10-26-2002, 05:42 AM
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I'm a prime example of 2.3L Turbo in action...
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Old 10-26-2002, 11:08 AM
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well what did you do for your turbo? forged pistons or swap? and how much boost do you get? and do you know how much hp you have? also was it worth the money....
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I haven't done pistons yet... But I have a 9.2:1 compression ratio right now, which isn't that bad for turbo... Plus the fact that the block is cast iron is nice... Built Ford Tough is all I can say... Click on my link for a full list of mods and pics... I've gotten 10psi out of it without a problem, it was well worth the money and I got amazing gains... But the equal length turbo manifold, head port and polish, the intake manifold port and polish, and the new throttle body definately helped...Have yet to take it to a dyno shop, but that will happen in the next few weeks... 8:1 Pistons, full valve train, and turbo cam are next on my list, I would love to boost 18psi and be running some great times in a little 4 banger ranger...
Will get back to you with dyno sheets... Keep checking the site, I have more pics to come, more is done, but I haven't been able to get the pics on the computer yet...

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see the new psd are 17.5 to one compression and 12 to 14 pounds boost can hanmdel the boost ranger you could fesiablely bump it up to 15 pounds of boost aslong as you have new head gaskets and bolts in theroy dont know how long it will last but
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ok well hardlowrdranger where did you get your turbo, what kind is it, and how much did it cost you? I'm wondering if it would be worth it to do it to mine... you have been a great inspiration and wanted to comment that your ranger looks awesome...
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see the new psd are 17.5 to one compression and 12 to 14 pounds boost can hanmdel the boost ranger you could fesiablely bump it up to 15 pounds of boost aslong as you have new head gaskets and bolts in theroy dont know how long it will last but
I think you're a little confused... You might want to do some reading...
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ok well hardlowrdranger where did you get your turbo, what kind is it, and how much did it cost you? I'm wondering if it would be worth it to do it to mine... you have been a great inspiration and wanted to comment that your ranger looks awesome...
It's a Turbonetics T04B Ball Bearing... Retail Price $1795, Can't tell you how much I actually paid for it... But you probably won't be doing as much as I did so you may want to think about getting a regular T3 or T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo, non ball bearing will cost a lot less too... But of course ball bearing is better, so it all depends what you want to get out of it and how much you have to spend... Non ball bearing would cost under a grand for a brand new one... And you can always get a reconditioned one for even less... I found a slightly used, great condition T3/T4 Hybrid non ball bearing for $150... So just be on the lookout... Hope this helps a little... :fordsrule:
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hey hardlowered i am not doubting your numbers but i got a question i have always wanted to know.

I got a friend at work with an integra that has like tons of boost with his turbo. im thinkin 20+ but it may be more like 15 (not sure, but he has an imported engine and all this stuff, 10-11 second car) and then you got 10 psi. So yall got turbos. but a lightning has crap for boost compared to yall (i forget the exact numbers) why? is it the difference in the supercharger and turbo or what? dont mean to stray from the subject. just wonderin.

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hey hardlowered i am not doubting your numbers but i got a question i have always wanted to know.

I got a friend at work with an integra that has like tons of boost with his turbo. im thinkin 20+ but it may be more like 15 (not sure, but he has an imported engine and all this stuff, 10-11 second car) and then you got 10 psi. So yall got turbos. but a lightning has crap for boost compared to yall (i forget the exact numbers) why? is it the difference in the supercharger and turbo or what? dont mean to stray from the subject. just wonderin.

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Well... To begin... Your friend probably has some work done to his integ... I have a turbo charged fully built GSR block in a drag CRX that we're still working on... But me and my partner had to do a lot of work to it to be able to handle a lot of boost... As for the aluminum blocks that integs come with, they can't handle a lot of boost, it will get too hot in the chamber and it'll warp it... So he's probably sleeved the block and using low compression forged pistons... Those levels of boost (20?) are not easy to acheive on those import blocks... But a stock GSR (B18c) block can boost 10psi with an intercooler and acheive over 300HP to the front wheels... Seen it done...

As for a ranger... well... It's a cast iron block and the compression isn't that high... So it can handle SOME boost (I've been told I should be able to take 12psi), but the internals themselves aren't made to handle too much power... That's why you have to upgrade the internals to be able to boost a lot... More stress put on the internals will make them fail sooner...

As for the 5.4 Supercharged Lightning block... The block itself already puts out more power than a stock ranger obviously... It has lower compression pistons already (8.4:1), has a cast iron block, runs 8psi on the supercharger, and has an intercooler... So you could actually put a bigger pulley on the supercharger and run more boost without problems... Overall I'd have to say two main things on this topic...

a) a turbo charger is better than a supercharger because even though a supercharger starts boosting right off the line, it doesn't make full boost till you almost hit redline, a turbo makes full boost, at somewhere around 3000-4000 for most cars, depending on the setup so it runs all motor in the beginning, but you have full boost throughout the powerband... plus you can control how much boost you make on a turbo with a boost controller, you have to change the pulleys to change a superchargers boost. AND lastly the supercharger is belt driven which puts EVEN MORE stress on your block and actually loses you HP just like running the A/C... Turbos are exhaust driven, by the pressure coming out of the exhaust ports in the head it drives the turbine... Much less strain...
b) the gains in HP for a supercharger and a turbo charger are very similar because overall they do the same thing... Charge and compress air, so more air fits in the same amount of space, then an intercooler cools it down so molecules are even closer together, making a lot more air in the same amount of space... The more air/fuel, the more combustion...

Sorry If I'm rambling... Hopefully this helped answer your question a little... :thumbsup: :fordsrule:
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on what,so i know what tooread,just point me the right way and i will find it


and also r you running a pyrometer and what r you temps i am just curious
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